Comments on: “No Homo”: Black Boys, Black Churches and The Stigma of Being Gay http://thehnic.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/%e2%80%9cno-homo%e2%80%9d-black-boys-black-churches-and-the-stigma-of-being-gay/ A Radically Indepdendent Take on Politics, Culture, Art and Society Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:17:33 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: swisha http://thehnic.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/%e2%80%9cno-homo%e2%80%9d-black-boys-black-churches-and-the-stigma-of-being-gay/#comment-38 swisha Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:21:59 +0000 http://thehnic.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/%e2%80%9cno-homo%e2%80%9d-black-boys-black-churches-and-the-stigma-of-being-gay/#comment-38 What does one mean when they say that gays are not accepted in the church? Sometimes people equate "acceptance" with the "condoning". The church accepts (or at least should accept) "murders", "adulterers", "liars" & "homosexuals", however, it doesn't condone murder, adultury, lying and sexuality. So, HNIC, i'm interested in knowing whether you are advocating that churches accept homosexuals or homosexuality. What does one mean when they say that gays are not accepted in the church? Sometimes people equate “acceptance” with the “condoning”.

The church accepts (or at least should accept) “murders”, “adulterers”, “liars” & “homosexuals”, however, it doesn’t condone murder, adultury, lying and sexuality.

So, HNIC, i’m interested in knowing whether you are advocating that churches accept homosexuals or homosexuality.

]]> By: hnic http://thehnic.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/%e2%80%9cno-homo%e2%80%9d-black-boys-black-churches-and-the-stigma-of-being-gay/#comment-26 hnic Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:03:00 +0000 http://thehnic.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/%e2%80%9cno-homo%e2%80%9d-black-boys-black-churches-and-the-stigma-of-being-gay/#comment-26 I don't know if I was arguing that the church should preach the "correctness" of a gay and lesbian lifestyle so much as I was pointing out the hypocritical arguments used to defend their positions-- the protection of the institution of marriage and the Bible's statements on homosexuality.One of the points I think the NYT article makes clear is that the attitude towards homosexuals is typically based on fear and that once people get beyond their barriers (through personal experience rather than religious conversion more often than not) they can get past feeling threatened by homosexuals, and can thereby become truly radicalized voices for social change. Even Pastor Wright in Chicago (Obama's pastor) has talked about the limited thinking he was operating under when he spurned gays and lesbians. His church, now thousands strong, embraces all seekers of faith, which would seem to be the purpose of religion and the distinguishing quality that sets it apart from a regular old organization of people. I don’t know if I was arguing that the church should preach the “correctness” of a gay and lesbian lifestyle so much as I was pointing out the hypocritical arguments used to defend their positions– the protection of the institution of marriage and the Bible’s statements on homosexuality.One of the points I think the NYT article makes clear is that the attitude towards homosexuals is typically based on fear and that once people get beyond their barriers (through personal experience rather than religious conversion more often than not) they can get past feeling threatened by homosexuals, and can thereby become truly radicalized voices for social change. Even Pastor Wright in Chicago (Obama’s pastor) has talked about the limited thinking he was operating under when he spurned gays and lesbians. His church, now thousands strong, embraces all seekers of faith, which would seem to be the purpose of religion and the distinguishing quality that sets it apart from a regular old organization of people.

]]> By: Sa'id http://thehnic.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/%e2%80%9cno-homo%e2%80%9d-black-boys-black-churches-and-the-stigma-of-being-gay/#comment-25 Sa'id Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:47:50 +0000 http://thehnic.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/%e2%80%9cno-homo%e2%80%9d-black-boys-black-churches-and-the-stigma-of-being-gay/#comment-25 While I believe that everyone has the right to "be" anything they want to be in terms of their sexuality and preference, deriding the Black churches for not supporting "gays and lesbians" is outright slanderous. There is no religious doctrine that preaches or practices that "gay" is religiously correct. The church is correct by not embracing a lifestyle that is clearly against any and all religious dogma. While I believe that everyone has the right to “be” anything they want to be in terms of their sexuality and preference, deriding the Black churches for not supporting “gays and lesbians” is outright slanderous. There is no religious doctrine that preaches or practices that “gay” is religiously correct. The church is correct by not embracing a lifestyle that is clearly against any and all religious dogma.

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